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Post by miker on Jul 19, 2022 13:08:10 GMT 10
Mike, How are you going on trying the different settings with your shocks? Have you had a chance to try out the changes you made on a dirt road? Well, not really on a dirt road, but the M1 freeway from Hexham to about Wyong is one of the worst bits of concrete I've ever been on. The Ural was still chattery with the front set two clicks up from soft, but it did seem better than full soft. I believe it's because the shocks are getting a chance to work correctly. After all the rain we've had, there is no need to go on any dirt. I've done the back roads to Windsor from Dee Why, then up to Wiseman's on the Wiseman's Ferry Rd from Pitt Town and back, it's stil not optimal, but there is only 2,500km on the clock, so I'm kinda hoping it will settle in a bit soon.
Pittwater Rd at Collaroy going either way is also a good test, as it's concrete slabs, pot holes and ruts. I'm due to go for a run back and forth and change the settings on each run to test the theory for certain, but I do 'feel' like two clicks from soft is better than full soft.
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Post by Uralee on Jul 19, 2022 14:35:01 GMT 10
The best way to test is to get someone else to change the settings……one way or the other…..and not tell you. Then you can decide without prejudice. 😇. We used to do this on race cars and surprise surprise, you could go the opposite way to the drivers suggestion and they would come back and say how much better it was..🤣🤣
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Post by haitch on Jul 19, 2022 19:08:47 GMT 10
My take on what I've read/heard and experienced is. Based on loaded weight and terrain there is no ideal setting. More important is, as I understand,the standard shock rebound and compression is very poor. You can have springs that are progressive or linear, but if the oil flow can't control them! You'll be buggered. That is where the secret lies. Getting the rebound and compression damping correct to control the spring rate. Not had my Ural for long. Far from knowing it all. It's three wheels fer goodness sake.
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Post by Uralee on Jul 19, 2022 19:34:25 GMT 10
……..And the compromise issue is……best for on road is NOT for off-road . I find setting and leaving your preload and compression damping to what makes you happy most of the time and back off the rebound damping from your on road setting if doing more than just a bit off-road.
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Post by haitch on Jul 20, 2022 8:46:01 GMT 10
……..And the compromise issue is……best for on road is NOT for off-road . I find setting and leaving your preload and compression damping to what makes you happy most of the time and back off the rebound damping from your on road setting if doing more than just a bit off-road. I only have preload to play with. No damping adjustments at all.
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Post by Uralee on Jul 20, 2022 10:56:10 GMT 10
……..And the compromise issue is……best for on road is NOT for off-road . I find setting and leaving your preload and compression damping to what makes you happy most of the time and back off the rebound damping from your on road setting if doing more than just a bit off-road. I only have preload to play with. No damping adjustments at all. Yes H, I had the same limitation on 5 Urals over 13 years and if you find anything better for your individual use other than the compromise of zero preload all round, then that is good for you. For smooth bitumen twisties cranking up the preload is great for high speed handling (you may not be up to that yet)….. Zero comfort. Get on the dirt or a roughish B road with preload cranked up and you will get shaken to bits and the bike will not handle with the wheels vibrating off the ground half the time…….not to mention trying to stop on a bumpy surface.😳 Don’t forget, it is not a solo. Nothing wrong with trying everything and getting to know your bike……been there done that. 👍 The available shocks with compression and rebound adjustments allow for a softer spring pre load due to better damping control.
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Post by haitch on Jul 20, 2022 18:05:59 GMT 10
Thanks Lee. I guessed we would end up there. All our travels so far, are c/b roads and a bit of dirt. Going to Eurobrits for remap tomorrow. Via Bacchus Marsh the on to the "M" roads. Suspension still wound up a bit. We will see.
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Post by longtravel on Jul 21, 2022 13:37:49 GMT 10
When I first rode my bike on a corrugated pot holed dirt road I thought the standard shocks needed to be longer travel. But then when I rode the bike over the corrugations from hell, it was obvious the damping was completely failing. The damping could not keep up with the corrugations and the shocks were loading up.
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Post by longtravel on Jul 21, 2022 13:38:55 GMT 10
Mike, How are you going on trying the different settings with your shocks? Have you had a chance to try out the changes you made on a dirt road? Well, not really on a dirt road, but the M1 freeway from Hexham to about Wyong is one of the worst bits of concrete I've ever been on. The Ural was still chattery with the front set two clicks up from soft, but it did seem better than full soft. I believe it's because the shocks are getting a chance to work correctly. After all the rain we've had, there is no need to go on any dirt. I've done the back roads to Windsor from Dee Why, then up to Wiseman's on the Wiseman's Ferry Rd from Pitt Town and back, it's stil not optimal, but there is only 2,500km on the clock, so I'm kinda hoping it will settle in a bit soon.
Pittwater Rd at Collaroy going either way is also a good test, as it's concrete slabs, pot holes and ruts. I'm due to go for a run back and forth and change the settings on each run to test the theory for certain, but I do 'feel' like two clicks from soft is better than full soft.
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Post by longtravel on Jul 21, 2022 13:43:26 GMT 10
Good to hear about your rides Mike. I do that stretch of M1 with the mine subsidence every spring. I go for a ride up to Byron to hang out with the 19 year old back packers on the beach. Has the subsidence got worse with all the rain this year?
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