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Post by dribbles on Apr 16, 2024 16:04:30 GMT 10
 Hi all, my name is Nick. I picked up this 2012 Bondi Tourist last weekend and regoed it today. I gotta ask some questions as I had some hairy experiences on my 45 min trip into town. I took it out yesterday for a quick test run and what I’m having issues is left hand turns. I’ve tried to watch all the videos but they’re all the opposite to us and my brain is struggling to work it out. Can you accelerate in a left hand turn? Or is it one that requires some speed to be scrubbed off? I’ve had some instances where I’ve come into a left so I’ll lean left and turn left but the bike has other ideas and drifts into the other lane (I live rural so virtually no one is on my road). Over the weekend I plan to put some witches hats out in a paddock and practice weaving in and out. What else should I practice? Also it’s setup correctly as I bought it off an engineer who builds his own rigs, I’ve inspected it myself using the resources I can find and it appears to be correct. Cheers, Nick. |
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Post by haitch on Apr 16, 2024 19:34:49 GMT 10
First mistake. Leaning does nothing. Shift your butt hard left. Watch the body English used by the enduro chair guys n gals in SA 24 HR trials.Practice figure 8s both clockwise and anticlockwise. Learn to feel what its like to lift the chair wheel. Still learning myself. On mosts lefts that are flat no pos/neg camber. It a case of washing off speed, looking ahead and accelerating through the apex toward road centre. Rear braking will help, as aggressive use of front will pitch the load mass forward and to the right. Lifting the chair wheel. Follow someone who is well versed in sidecar/ural behavior. I am only 2 years into my apprenticeship. Many on here more experienced than I. Happy to be corrected.
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Post by Uralee on Apr 16, 2024 20:33:05 GMT 10
Enter corners slower than you think. You may then accelerate, which does help drive the bike around the corner…….but it is not a major factor while learning.
More steering input is required than you expect……
Use your knees to brace against the tank
For a left turn….drop your left elbow and keep your right arm straight………opposite for righties.
This allows you to SIT UP STRAIGHT and have the leverage from BOTH ARMS that you need for steering input.
Save moving around on the bike until you are well accomplished at steering and understand the required input.
As said by H…..practice figure 8’s and get the feeling of lifting the chair so you are not shocked when it happens unexpectedly on the road……..AND IT WILL.
Take care and keep asking questions.
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Post by philg on Apr 19, 2024 15:18:21 GMT 10
You can do everything as suggested but as a newbie myself it's much easier on LH corners if you have a passenger or weight. So far I have 7000k on my bike new late July, despite being away two months overseas during that time. For weight, I have my friend "Sandy" (3x 20k Bunnings sand). I have done a lot of dirt roads in that time including the 3-day Ural Adventure Ride, one day with Sandy and two with my wife.
Yeah, I know the old timers here will poohoo Sandy but it promotes the confidence that you won't fly the chair, when you don't want it to. It's a bit like doing wheelies it's for showing off mainly, but I stand corrected on that. The best thing I did was a training course with Jon Taylor Ural of Oz, unfortunately, he's a bit remote in Kentucky NSW but worth the trip.
On RH corners I find taking off a bit of power makes turning the corners a little less effort.
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Post by andyh on Apr 20, 2024 6:00:57 GMT 10
... Over the weekend I plan to put some witches hats out in a paddock and practice weaving in and out. Start a short course and then gradually move the cones further out. Do this over and over and over until you are sliding the rear around the cone on rights and lifting the chair on lefts. Hopefully you have a flat paddock, as camber makes a difference too.
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Post by haitch on Apr 20, 2024 8:39:34 GMT 10
A little more on using the knees. I found that as cornering speed increases, the centrifugal force generated will try to through you off. Ie in a left that force tries to throw you to the right. Bracing you left knee against the tank will help quite a lot. Remember. Right turn brace right knee, Lefty is brace with left knee. When used with the straight arm push to turn it really locks you in.
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Post by andyh on Apr 21, 2024 6:39:44 GMT 10
... I found that as cornering speed increases, the centrifugal force generated will try to through you off. And this is why I laugh out loud every time someone says "I will get one when my knees are gone". There are pads on the tank for a very good reason. |
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Post by wilmo on Apr 21, 2024 9:41:43 GMT 10
First of all, welcome! Take the Dog as ballast if you have one.
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Post by Wheels on Apr 21, 2024 11:17:34 GMT 10
For what it’s worth!
When starting out slow down and enjoy the ride, don’t overthink it. Jon Taylor’s half day ride course at Kentucky certainly shows what one can and can’t do and prepares for their own personal learning adventure. Experience only comes from a lot of Ural riding. Participating in Ural group rides is a great learning curve, try following someone that you know is experienced and likes riding hard……eg, when do their brake lights come on and go off, when is the throttle rolled on or off, what is the cornering speed, body language etc. If you can’t keep up back off (not forgetting to change your jocks at the next stop) but don’t fret, because if you keep riding the hell out of your Ural the day will come when you don’t have to back off, and the rider in front can’t shake you out of his rear vision mirrors and you’ll say to yourself “I wonder what all the fuss was about riding these Ural’s”…..until the next scare!!
First post in a long while!
Cheers Wheels 😎
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Post by dribbles on Apr 22, 2024 7:05:25 GMT 10
First of all, welcome! Take the Dog as ballast if you have one. Hahaha he’s all of 5kg so no going to be much help to me 🤣 |
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