andyh
2015 Tourist
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Post by andyh on May 2, 2022 6:28:52 GMT 10
...how many km's you getting out of a tank of 98 ? ... Easter loaded with some gear and my missus in the chair at 85-90kph back road travel. Was 220+ km till the fuel light came on. From the Ural Aust web site for a 2022 gear Up - - Fuel grade: 95 Octane, unleaded
- Fuel tank capacity, ltr: 19
- Reserve, ltr: app. 3.8
- Estimated fuel economy, km/ltr: 15 or 6.6 l/100km
Based on that figure of 6.6 liters per 100 it isn't much different from the 14-18's with the exception of when the fuel light comes on Mine gets about 6, fuel light comes on anywhere from 120 to 200 but when it goes solid I have 40k's left and I have never put more than 17 liters in an empty tank. Maybe the new ones with the pump in the tank let you use that few liters sloshing around? Guess if you are forced to use 95/98 Octane then every extra kilometer counts (or it did last month anyway)
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Post by keith on May 2, 2022 8:46:39 GMT 10
...how many km's you getting out of a tank of 98 ? ... Easter loaded with some gear and my missus in the chair at 85-90kph back road travel. Was 220+ km till the fuel light came on. From the Ural Aust web site for a 2022 gear Up - - Fuel grade: 95 Octane, unleaded
- Fuel tank capacity, ltr: 19
- Reserve, ltr: app. 3.8
- Estimated fuel economy, km/ltr: 15 or 6.6 l/100km
Based on that figure of 6.6 liters per 100 it isn't much different from the 14-18's with the exception of when the fuel light comes on Mine gets about 6, fuel light comes on anywhere from 120 to 200 but when it goes solid I have 40k's left and I have never put more than 17 liters in an empty tank. Maybe the new ones with the pump in the tank let you use that few liters sloshing around? Guess if you are forced to use 95/98 Octane then every extra kilometer counts (or it did last month anyway) I get to about 260 when the light starts coming fully on. Then it takes about 14 litres to fill it.
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Post by haitch on May 2, 2022 10:26:05 GMT 10
From the Ural Aust web site for a 2022 gear Up - - Fuel grade: 95 Octane, unleaded
- Fuel tank capacity, ltr: 19
- Reserve, ltr: app. 3.8
- Estimated fuel economy, km/ltr: 15 or 6.6 l/100km
Based on that figure of 6.6 liters per 100 it isn't much different from the 14-18's with the exception of when the fuel light comes on Mine gets about 6, fuel light comes on anywhere from 120 to 200 but when it goes solid I have 40k's left and I have never put more than 17 liters in an empty tank. Maybe the new ones with the pump in the tank let you use that few liters sloshing around? Guess if you are forced to use 95/98 Octane then every extra kilometer counts (or it did last month anyway) I get to about 260 when the light starts coming fully on. Then it takes about 14 litres to fill it. Keith, I hope mine starts to get that sort of economy. I reckon you are doing very well.
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Post by haitch on May 2, 2022 10:38:17 GMT 10
Hi Andy I am not too concerned about the cost to use 98 RON vs 95 RON. As down my way there is only about 10c difference between the two. About $1.70 for a 17 Lt fill. I am more concerned with holed piston events, due to low octane/poor fuel, and not prepared to take the risk to save a few dollars. I think, as we all know by now, this is a different engine thanks to the higher compression. I understand the higher comp is to force the use of higher octane, cleaner fuels to assist in the passage through Euro 5 compliance. Without which, I don't think Ural could continue. As if they didnt have enough to worry about. Anyway, here are some pics from my 2022 Manual and of my fuel tank to clarify the Octane issue.
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Post by longtravel on May 2, 2022 15:00:01 GMT 10
On the 2019 I consistently have the low fuel light come on at 200–205km. I did get much higher mpg (old school) when running the beast in.
It runs best on 95 octane. It runs better on 95 than 98. Maybe if it was running on 98 all the time the ECU would adjust to that. It is ok on 91 but not as good on the low aromatic Opal fuel. It never pings.
It seems to have much more precise fuel delivery than the first gen fuel injections. It reacts much better when off road to cracking the throttle on to go up hill from low revs.
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Post by Wheels on May 2, 2022 15:28:42 GMT 10
Even with the 2012 (carb) Retro I go for 98 every time. The difference in performance is really noticeable between 98 and 91, but between 98 and 95 there isn’t (on the Retro that is). Fortunately for me 91 can be used without any problems even when riding in 35 degree C days. It’s going to be a little tough on you blokes with the new machines because sometimes you can ride days without finding anything other than 91. A prime example was when a bunch of us was riding out in the Gawler Ranges area on 35 degree C days and 91 the only fuel available, but I guess with the great range you blokes get and a little additional fuel you should be ok. Holes in pistons!….when Bobsie bought her 2013 Tourist it was in bits and pieces and needed a new crank. That done the bike was put back together sporting a fairly new US 2 into 1 (come with the bike) and dumbass me neglected to check the carb jetting so it run lean, eventually resulting in a hole through the right side piston, right on the top edge near the spark plug. The day that hole burnt through to the first ring groove and the ring decided to break up and exit the cylinder via the hole in the piston was impressive. After a monstrous backfire with impressive flames roaring out the muffler a loud clattering ensued as bits of the ring exited via the exhaust valve and then normal non clattering running continued…All good!…Well, Bobsie and I had a couple of big rides planned and she wasn’t about to let anything stop her, so she did another 2,000kms with a hole in the piston and a small section of the top ring still in place. There was the occasional stop to let that cylinder cool down (don’t know why it was overheating!!) but undaunted the planned rides were completed. One tough Ural and Girl. It took me 4 hrs to replace the piston and rings, clean up some dints in the head (don’t know where they came from!!) and amazingly only had to lap the valves, they were in perfect shape as was the seats with only a couple of minor scores in the bore and finally drill slides in both carbs, washers under the needles and bigger jets which should’ve been done long ago. Just goes to show!…running a Ural lean is nasty, and now days I err on the rich side!….because I can, luv carbs! Final word!….the Retro hates Shell fuel (and I’m buggered if I know why), and for that very reason so do I. Cheers Wheels. 😎
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andyh
2015 Tourist
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Post by andyh on May 3, 2022 5:40:51 GMT 10
...I get to about 260 when the light starts coming fully on. Then it takes about 14 litres to fill it. Down in the low 5's - nice
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andyh
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Post by andyh on May 3, 2022 5:43:16 GMT 10
...I am more concerned with holed piston events Understandably, but none AUS by all accounts?
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Post by haitch on May 3, 2022 8:24:13 GMT 10
...I am more concerned with holed piston events Understandably, but none AUS by all accounts? That is correct. Though, of the relatively small number of high comp engines in Oz, I don't think anyone is running any fuel other than 98 RON. I would love to hear from anyone with a high comp 2022, running 91 or 95 RON without octane booster. I am keeping a close watch on the US and EU/UK experience.
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Post by longtravel on May 5, 2022 9:03:17 GMT 10
I took the 2019 for a ride up the highway yesterday (no passenger on board). I kept having to back it off to try and stay just under 110kph. Its no sports bike but its good to have adequate power. Turning off onto a winding back road turned into more of a gym workout. On the highway it is so easy to ride at 110. The leading link front end is like having power steering. I have the quite small standard handle bar mounted windshield and really like it. It could be quite different with a windjammer type fairing.
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